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XenoKiLLer wrote:
well say it again like we said before, its just not possible to go to all that. It would be good if we could, but we cant. The only way to get that is create ing your own engine from scratch that is designed for those kinds of maps, graphics and interaction.


the devs are planning to push the limits of the wet-engine,
and do things that noone ever expected that its possible with the wet-engine,

and like i said before:

maybe the jungle map will look good,
maybe the jungle map will look ugly,

the only way they will "find it out" is to "try it out"
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We know you have big dreams for a free game that beats halflife2 in quality but the limits of this old engine have limits aswell. Do you know how Carmack made Doom3? I think I have already told you what they did and cant do. Currently, the WET engine is at the very near edge of its limit, the engine doesnt have the capacity to go further to match your expectations. Even if the devs attempt to put HDR and px and vx 2 suppost in the engine, that will never happen with the old Quake3 based engine. It is simply too much for an old piece of software.

Well, the devs dont have time to try it out, and a I said, only we can make this happen, dont rely on the devs too much to fulfill your dream game's existence. If you want, you should start practicing your mapping skills and then study about the jungle as you said and make the map yourself.

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but xeno, he can't, because:

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third party maps suck


and wouldn't that make him a 3rd party mapper \0/

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on anyone without t3 connection, a terabyte of RAM, and a unicorn in thier back yard, A JUNGLE MAP WOULD LAG THE ENGINE PAST 28.8K DIALUP SERVERS!!!

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XenoKiLLer wrote:
We know you have big dreams for a free game that beats halflife2 in quality but the limits of this old engine have limits aswell. Do you know how Carmack made Doom3? I think I have already told you what they did and cant do. Currently, the WET engine is at the very near edge of its limit, the engine doesnt have the capacity to go further to match your expectations. Even if the devs attempt to put HDR and px and vx 2 suppost in the engine, that will never happen with the old Quake3 based engine. It is simply too much for an old piece of software.

Well, the devs dont have time to try it out, and a I said, only we can make this happen, dont rely on the devs too much to fulfill your dream game's existence. If you want, you should start practicing your mapping skills and then study about the jungle as you said and make the map yourself.


A point I've been trying to get across. But you did it in a more passive manner. :roll:

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We should finad an article on this.

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There's no need for an article. A jungle map would be too laggish and complex to make.

Case closed.

Next. :P

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Now why did you ask for what's next? The only possibility of that happenning is on the possible next TC, TC2.

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Dragonathan wrote:
and like i said before:

maybe the jungle map will look good,
maybe the jungle map will look ugly,

the only way they will "find it out" is to "try it out"
and see how it looks.[/color]


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If you want, you should start practicing your mapping skills and then study about the jungle as you said and make the map yourself.


I dont wanna make a map, all i want is to play on a map thats made by skilled people,"the devs"

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"Hey, if you want something done..."

think you know what completes this qoute?

"If you want something done you gotta do it yourself"

You cant expect the devs to do everything you want. It is still thier game and since it is their property, it is thier choice what to do. So if you really wanted that map to look the way you want it to, then you gotta make it yourself. Like you, these devs started off not knowing how to make these things. Instead they dont bicker around with people like me abou how they want to play it not make it, they learned how to make it and made it. If you really have that IQ you claim to have, then learning how to map isnt going to be too hard for you.

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XenoKiLLer wrote:
You cant expect the devs to do everything you want. It is still thier game and since it is their property, it is thier choice what to do.


exactly, so if they wanna make a jungle map, its theyre choice,
and if they dont wanna make this jungle map, than its theyre choice,

not yours,

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If you really have that IQ you claim to have, then learning how to map isnt going to be too hard for you.


funny that i have to repeat things:
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I dont wanna make a map, all i want is to play on a map thats made by skilled people,"the devs"


maybe if you didnt asked the same questions, i wouldnt self quote

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How does the question look the same?

Then case closed.. Lets just see wether or not there will be a map in the jungle. End of discussion.

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Yes, you're right Dragon. If they want to make it they can, if they don't, then there will be only a handful of upset people out there.

A jungle map is a shitty idea anyways.

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Silentcrisis wrote:
then there will be only a handful of upset people out there.


i did mention that the devs should only make this map when all the importent features are done,

by the way,

yes, allot of people are upset with me, posting idea's that might delay the time, but once evrything is done,
you can mark my words, that allot of people will be happy like crazy

matter of fact, you can save this post on your notepad,

if 0.49 is released with some features i suggested,
and if there are people that are not happy about the features,

you can tell xeno to ban me, and i will never come on this forum again,
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trust me, its worth waiting,
there are plenty of games you still can play,

me.. im playing ghost recon on my 360,

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That isnt part of my job description. Im here o keep the forums inorder and keep all of you inorder. If anyone doesnt comply, then its Diane who you will be speaking with, or Traumahawk.

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Just someone, ban his ass. We won't be sorry. And if we are, he'll come back eventually.

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