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 Post subject: 2 rifle's / 2 pistols
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:32 am 
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XenoKiLLer wrote:
It would be good if you can carry 2 primary weapons like in AAO.


Dragonathan wrote:

yeah... but the problem is,
it will be unrealistic if the "virtual model" carry one 2 rifles on his back,

lets say you have 1 rifle on your back, and 1 rifle on your hands.
you can switch the rifles on your back and hands,

but what if you wanna use A pistol or A knife,
no matter what you have to put the 2 rifles on your back


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I suggest devs should never use example A.
thats just unrealistic, like allot of FPS, the players just carry on 1 rifle on they're back when they really have more than 1 rifle on there back

they should consider to use example B. or C
they should consider to use example B. or C.


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B should be fine, but you would always have one in hand, but soldiers never really do two at a time. Pic B is the best. But i think the US army uniform actually has something on the back for shouldering the guns, theres space for one on the left and one on the right. its that thing on the back of the MOLLE vest. Carrying two guns is sure better than having to choose between your very good gun with 1 clip left and the enemy's weak gun that is fully loaded.


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also remember, many people (SWAT officers, some military, etc) have a strap on thier weapon, usually, they will drop it, and take thier other one.

I"m thinking, AR, and a doorbuster.
rifle is the main weapon, the door buster is used for opening certain doors (say, to an objective)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:48 am 
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You can always shoulder both guns when you dont need to use them. but ofcourse, nobody will shoulder in a x/crossed position, picture B is perfect.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:14 am 
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you always start with one primarily rifle,
if you pick up another rifle, that rifle will be your secondary rifle.
because it looks stupid if you switch your primarily weopon with A unkown weopon from the floor,
I think real soldiers would never do that in real life.


oh and another thing...

I suggested to share ammo with team mates before right...
http://www.truecombat.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=385
forget about that... its unefficient,
we should only share ower secondary rifles with ower team mates thats more efficient

there are 2 ways to share the secondary rifle with your team mate,

1.drop the secondary rifle on the floor, so your team mate can pick it up

2.give your rifle to your team mate hand by hand,
he should see an action icon when you point your secondary rifle to your team mate,
watch this movie --->
http://www.gammotv.nl/player.php?sid=647
you see A part where A man give's his weopon to the player.
it should look something like that

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:07 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:32 pm 
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well the other rifle can always be shoulder-straped on your shoulders while the otherone hands on the holster on your back. Picking up an OpFor weapon isnt such a bad idea. For steath and other reasons like running out of ammo. Last resort but still very helpful for surviving. Youll never know when you eventually need to get a new gun from the field.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:06 pm 
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also, if you have the one you start with (primary) put on your front, and your secondary put on your back, it makes it look better.

and for choosing between your two rifles, do what happens of you do the give all cheat, you just hit the button a few times to switch. it's in RTCW, upon which the engine this game uses is on, so there ya go!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:41 am 
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but soldiers in real life only carry one rifle,

so thats why i think you should start with 1 rifle,
when you picked another riffle on the floor,
that should be your secondary rifle.

and if we're able to pick up pistols from the floor on the next version,
than we should be able to carry 2 pistols,

but the problem is, theres is no place to carry on your secondary pistol.
well, you shouldnt be able to save a second pistol in your inventory,

so when your using the secondary pistol,
and you decide to change another weopon,
than you should automaticly drop your secondary pistol on the floor,

this is the most proper/realistic solution.


P.S. this thread should be in the gameplay section,
maybe is about guns/weopons, but not specificly!!
its more a gameplay thread, trust me moderators,
so put this back in the gameplay topic.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:15 pm 
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Maybe you should have put 'your' topic in that section... *sigh*

Oh well... :roll:

On topic:
The idea of carrying to rifles is a bit irrelivent to me. Most people don't even have the chance to unload with the weapon they carry at first. Unless someone is so trigger happy and unnoticed to waste all of his ammo before dying, it is kind of unneeded.

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when Im in the mood I really would need two guns because I use things up

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the devs gonna remove the "holding 2 guns" feature,
wich i really aggree on, cause its too fictional,
it doesnt match with TC:E's theme.
but to be able to pick a pistol from the floor,
and use it as your secondary pistol,
and when you decide to change weopon you automaticly drop the pistol,
because a second pistol dont wont fit in your inventory,
because you allread have 1 pistol,
and a very small one "i heard traumahwak whas working on the tiny pistols"
now that would be extremely realistic.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:16 pm 
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thats one thing, you should be able to drop your pistol when it runs out, thenpick up someone else's.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:29 pm 
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"DEVS READ THIS ATTENTIVELY"

yes be able to drop your weopon so someone can pick it up if he is out of ammo, and what really would be a awesome feature,
is to be able to share your rifle/pistol with your team mate,
by standing infront of him, than you should press key "T" or any other key.
than you do a movement where you somehow flip/switch your rifle/pistol
upside down, and if you hold the key "T", you should be able to hold that position, now if you walk towards your team mate, with that position,
and stand infront of him, your team mate should see an action icon,
if he selects the action icon, he should be able to grap your pistol/rifle from your hands.

watch this movie:
http://www.gammotv.nl/player.php?sid=647
you will see a part where the player gives his rifle to his team mate.
thats how it should look like.

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its better if someone died and he drops everything he is carrying.

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