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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:27 pm 
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Bug reload.

Example:

You have empty clip - YOU CHANGE CLIP AND REALOAD.

You have one round (or more) - YOU ONLY CHANGE CLIP. YOU DONT MUST RELOAD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ROUND IN CHAMBER GUN. (It is a real word)

You have one round in chamber you faster change clip and not die.

Can you fix it?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:26 am 
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hmm. i dont quite get what you mean, but yeah there is a thing wrong wih reloading. When you still got some ammo in the magazine and you reload, you lose all the remaining ammo in it. I guess they will attemp to fix that an use persistent magazines. persistent magazines will stay with you throughout the game. If you reload a half used mag, you will still carry that half used one and when you use up all your ammo, and you stick in that mag, your ammo will be the ame as the time you reloaded it. Read the persistent magazine thread on the Weapons Design and Discussions forums.

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I think he means is that if you have ammo left in the mag, you have a round in the chamber, so why do you cock the weapon when you reload?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:34 pm 
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In real life:

Example 1.

You have empty magazine/clip (you dont have ammo in gun). What you must do:
1. Change magazine/clip
2. Reload.

Example 2.

You have only one bullet in gun. What you must do:
1. only change magazine/clip

You dont reload, because you have bullet CHAMBER.

In tce you always must change magazine/clip and reload! it is not real.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:45 pm 
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sadly, that's how ET is set, the reload animation does the whole reload sequence, and not just swapping clips.

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America's Army shows full detail in clip/reloading animations, and that started controversies regarding kids learning hor to shoot a gun. Ofcourse belive the controversy itself is stupid becasue who in heaven's name (pardon me) learns to shoot with a keyboard and a mouse.

Your right tho, the gun should have at lest one bullet in chamber when you reload. Thats a great point you have there.

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I really don't care, but if a kid could get his hand on a gun that played AA, I think it could be possible to fire it. I mean, I understand the gun enough to fire it succesfully, but I was taught. All the kid has to do, is get his hand on an M4 (theres your problem there) put a full or partially load magazine in the gun, slap it, cock the gun, push the um, thingy button thingy, whatever it's called, chargin handle i think, but thats what pulls the bolt out, which is still the cocking part, ( man I swear if anyone makes fun of cock I will shoot you, because I know how to load an M4, I lpay AA) then, line up your sights, and pull the trigger, only thing most children won't know is how to clean it, put it together, and take it apart, thats about it. So I do think it is possible. You are not physically shooting, but you are being shown how to opperate a live weapon. And on this thread, I understand him completely.

If you pull an empty clip out of the gun, all ammunition has been used, if you pull out a half way fired cartridge, there is still a bullet in the chamber, so you could still use this bullet witout a clip, and, when the guy reloads, you do not need to pull the charging handle, that will just pop out the bullet in th chamber, waisting a round. With standard bolt action rifles, this is different, since the bolt is manual, you fire all shots, (this is a bolt action sniper with a magazine btw) there is still a case in the chamber, this is when you reload, you pull out the old magazine, put the new one in, and then pull the bolt, which will get rid of the old case, also, with bolt action sipers, alot of the time, they only need once magazine, you just pop the bolt out, and push the ammunition in through the chamber, the first in, is the last out. of course, since in TC:E, you have multiple magazines, this is not needed, it only works with the R93 and the SR8. This probably went too far though. I just love getting into long typing about weapons. :D


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Its easy to fire a gun, but its not easy for nearly all humans to imagine taking a life. Unless ofcourse your talking about the idoit population then thats different.

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