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 Post subject: SPECOP & TERRORIST models
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:08 pm 
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SPECOP:

the models in tce is a bit too ordinairy... i can see that there isnt much imagination involved when the devs created/skinned the models,
the models doesnt have.. i call it "soul"... it doesnt look appealing,
if there were action figures of tce's models, i dont think it wouldnt be sold well...

well i have a few suggestions for the models, like i suggested before... why not make the bad guys look like good guys and the good guys like bad guys,
and i dont mean that the specop should be killing innocent civilians or something,
but im talking about the looks... specop should look more fearsome,
and its very easy to make the specops look like fearsome, just let the specop wear masks, that will give the illusion that the specop look like evil,

just think of the comic hero "judge dredd", when you see that character you thinks hes gonna do something bad cause he looks like bad ass, but hes actually a good guy that protects the law,

here are some inspirations for the devs:
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remember that those are just examples/inspirations,

as you can see, that judge dredd character is a good guy but he looks linda like a bad/evil guy, thats what i really mean,

here are some other examples/inspirations:
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TERRORIST:

now as for the terrorist, in allot of games you always see that the good guys look way more cooler and better than the bad guys, that because most game developers are focused in designing the good guys and they mostly forget about the bad guys, and usually the bad guys look like shit because the developers didnt gave any proper designing effort on the bad guys, so i suggest the devs should make the terrorist as cool as the specop.

and i suggest that the terrorist should look like thiefs/orgenised crime/spy... type of look, the should wear black clothing,
like:
-splintercell
-solidsnake
-the rebels of "the matrix"
-cyphon filter

here are some examples/inspirations:

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afcourse not with the 3 green goggles, but just the gear,

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as long they wear a black colered gear, that will give the terrorist a "thiefy/orgenised crime/spy" type of look

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:22 pm 
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Is this supposed to be a joke? Darth Vader special ops? :wtf:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:28 pm 
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Thrawn2211 wrote:
Is this supposed to be a joke? Darth Vader special ops? :wtf:

+1

serioulsly, it's to be taking place in the late 1980's with real people the terrorists will more than likely be in civilian clothes, and the specops in regular military attire.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:34 pm 
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havent you guys learned in school what inspiration means?

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Seriously if they wanted inspiration they should look at today's military and police forces. The USArmy for one is the most advanced when it comes to infanry armor and equiptment - the future force warrior system proves it with several advancements in optics, camouflage, and body armor. Todays SWAT teams aswell are pretty much in par.

As for the tangoes I dont like the stereotypical idea of men with beards and turbans. Also, I dont like the steraotype for AKs being terrorist weapons because a tango would use anything they can or afford. Plus in TCE, the tango team is calle dthe Unit, not something that sounds like anything that uses Aks for the price but mostly because they can.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:45 pm 
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now about the suggestion of how the specop should look like,

it should look kinda like this:
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only the devs have to make it 30 times better and 100 times more realistic,

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:49 pm 
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The design is fine but it would be better in urban colors since TCE is mostly an urban and semi urban game. The digital camoupatterns SPEC4CE Metro and the SPEC4CE Urban set are perfect.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:30 pm 
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i think the problem is, is that the devs have lack of imagination,
and they dont wanna take risks in designing new stuff, but i mean... if something doesnt turn out to be as you wanted to be, doesnt mean you cant make a new one... you learn from mistakes, and you only get better and only gain more knowledge... "knowledge is power"
but since they have a talented modeler "bruce45" it wont be a problem,

like what xeno said, as long the terrorist dont look like stereo type of terrorist with beards and tulbands, but even if its stereo types it is realistic, just think of afghanistan, allmost all the terrorist in afghanistan have beards and tulbands,
and we all know that tons of games allready have those kind of terrorists,

so i personally dont think its a big issue to use fictional bad guys as terrorist,
a little bit fiction wont demage the realism,

by the way i have some video's for some inspiration for specop, fragments from a manga movie called "jin roh" those guys with the masks on are a special assault team,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY5yO7AiBSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHDKwMlspHE
its just for some inspirations

it would be awesome if the specop's masks would look like its part of them,

now as for the terrorist, now this video fis rom that PSP game cyphon filter,
now check how cyphonfilter looks, check what hes wearing:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php? ... mv&pl=game

that would be a cool terrorist,

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:31 am 
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Why cant the terrorists be from some other race.. maybe from different nations that just group together to terrorize people for money.

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XenoKiLLer wrote:
Why cant the terrorists be from some other race.. maybe from different nations that just group together to terrorize people for money.

like an ex-military unit, out for revenge!

oh, wait....

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Or they could make the spec ops look like modern spec ops, and the terrorist look like people who want to blow shit up, but wait.... its already like that.

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It already is minus the fact that most of the equiptment now are infact quite old.. specifically the AK47 and the old style uniforms and armor.

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Dragonathan wrote:
i think the problem is, is that the devs have lack of imagination,


You are absolutely right.

I mean, Darth Vader vs Neo? That's definitely something that work well in TCE.

Why didn't I think of that?


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Sarcasm, dont you just love it. 8)

As I believe, the devs are really putting TCE into something like an 80's feel because if they were really trying to get us into a more modern world, we wouldnt be using all those old and aging weapons and equiptment, plus just to show you the Specops in TCE resemble police SWAT and special ops forces more then they actually resemble anyone from the military. Yes there are some models using army olive drab and the old dense foliage camouflage colors and patterns, but from the looks of the models and even the maps, the idea is to make it look like the cold war times.

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Holy shit... I can sOo make this idea better.

The Spec. Ops. could have jet packs and Ion Cannons mounted onto their backs! And the Terrorists can shit in their hands and use their shit (which would be highly concentrated acid of course) as a chemical deterrent against the Spec. Ops. Titanium armor!

After you get so many kills, you will be teleported to a secret room where you will have to fight Uberasiat (Super Asian) in a breakdancing contest... If you beat him, he will admit defeat, give you a shiny gold metal, and a lightsaber so you can cut down your enemies.

And if that spawn camper starts to piss you off, you can blast him with force lightning or use force grip against him to put his n00b ass down...

So much could be built off of this idea! Golly G Dragonathon has good ideas!!! (Insert flamboyant cackle here)

More of that sarcasm Xeno. :roll:

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